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		<title>By: Chris Abraham</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an enormous difference between Israel defending itself agaist aggressors and the United States pursuing interventionism. Israel and the USSR have always been known for improportional retaliation against unfriendlies. This is the way they are and noone should be at all surprised by any of this.  

The conversion rate has always been one suicide bomber equals the suicide bomber&#039;s family&#039;s city block razed to the ground by an Apache&#039;s gatling gun.  So, that is the offer on the table.  It always has been. 

Texas ain&#039;t got nothing on Israel. Don&#039;t mess with  Israel.

That said, interventionism is even worse.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an enormous difference between Israel defending itself agaist aggressors and the United States pursuing interventionism. Israel and the USSR have always been known for improportional retaliation against unfriendlies. This is the way they are and noone should be at all surprised by any of this.  </p>
<p>The conversion rate has always been one suicide bomber equals the suicide bomber&#8217;s family&#8217;s city block razed to the ground by an Apache&#8217;s gatling gun.  So, that is the offer on the table.  It always has been. </p>
<p>Texas ain&#8217;t got nothing on Israel. Don&#8217;t mess with  Israel.</p>
<p>That said, interventionism is even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Abraham</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-6594</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an enormous difference between Israel defending itself agaist aggressors and the United States pursuing interventionism. Israel and the USSR have always been known for improportional retaliation against unfriendlies. This is the way they are and noone should be at all surprised by any of this.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The conversion rate has always been one suicide bomber equals the suicide bomber&#039;s family&#039;s city block razed to the ground by an Apache&#039;s gatling gun.  So, that is the offer on the table.  It always has been. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Texas ain&#039;t got nothing on Israel. Don&#039;t mess with  Israel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, interventionism is even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an enormous difference between Israel defending itself agaist aggressors and the United States pursuing interventionism. Israel and the USSR have always been known for improportional retaliation against unfriendlies. This is the way they are and noone should be at all surprised by any of this.  </p>
<p>The conversion rate has always been one suicide bomber equals the suicide bomber&#8217;s family&#8217;s city block razed to the ground by an Apache&#8217;s gatling gun.  So, that is the offer on the table.  It always has been. </p>
<p>Texas ain&#8217;t got nothing on Israel. Don&#8217;t mess with  Israel.</p>
<p>That said, interventionism is even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stretch the WWII analogy even further than Josh, I would compare the motivations of the Nazis with the motivations of the average Islamist terrorist/sympathizer.  In both cases we are talking about people who are humiliated and seek to prove their intrinsic superiority to those that they see as their unjustifiably smug oppressors.  Hitler convinced his beaten-down country-men that they were a superior race that had been unjustly victimized by the Jews and their lackeys in Britain and France.  Bin Laden and his crew have convinced their fellow Islamists that the Jews and their lackeys in the US are trying to hold down Muslims everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stretch the WWII analogy even further than Josh, I would compare the motivations of the Nazis with the motivations of the average Islamist terrorist/sympathizer.  In both cases we are talking about people who are humiliated and seek to prove their intrinsic superiority to those that they see as their unjustifiably smug oppressors.  Hitler convinced his beaten-down country-men that they were a superior race that had been unjustly victimized by the Jews and their lackeys in Britain and France.  Bin Laden and his crew have convinced their fellow Islamists that the Jews and their lackeys in the US are trying to hold down Muslims everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stretch the WWII analogy even further than Josh, I would compare the motivations of the Nazis with the motivations of the average Islamist terrorist/sympathizer.  In both cases we are talking about people who are humiliated and seek to prove their intrinsic superiority to those that they see as their unjustifiably smug oppressors.  Hitler convinced his beaten-down country-men that they were a superior race that had been unjustly victimized by the Jews and their lackeys in Britain and France.  Bin Laden and his crew have convinced their fellow Islamists that the Jews and their lackeys in the US are trying to hold down Muslims everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stretch the WWII analogy even further than Josh, I would compare the motivations of the Nazis with the motivations of the average Islamist terrorist/sympathizer.  In both cases we are talking about people who are humiliated and seek to prove their intrinsic superiority to those that they see as their unjustifiably smug oppressors.  Hitler convinced his beaten-down country-men that they were a superior race that had been unjustly victimized by the Jews and their lackeys in Britain and France.  Bin Laden and his crew have convinced their fellow Islamists that the Jews and their lackeys in the US are trying to hold down Muslims everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s well-known that people of a nation pay for their commanders acts. Even if the Americans try doing good things in this agitated world, they are often perceived in an opposite way. Strange!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s well-known that people of a nation pay for their commanders acts. Even if the Americans try doing good things in this agitated world, they are often perceived in an opposite way. Strange!</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-6596</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s well-known that people of a nation pay for their commanders acts. Even if the Americans try doing good things in this agitated world, they are often perceived in an opposite way. Strange!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s well-known that people of a nation pay for their commanders acts. Even if the Americans try doing good things in this agitated world, they are often perceived in an opposite way. Strange!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I still fail to understand is the causality between &quot;our behavior&quot; and the attacks against us. Maybe if I could understand what other countries have done to deserve terrorist attacks. 

What did Argentina, which has had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/eng_n/argentina_e.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;terrorist attacks from Islamic extremists&lt;/a&gt;, do deserve there attack? 

What behavior can we associate with the Swiss, who pride themselves on being neutral, deserve to be in the 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901795.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;crosshairs of Islamic radicals&lt;/a&gt;? Quote from the Washington Post:
&lt;blockquote&gt;As the global jihad movement becomes more decentralized and fragmented, however, Swiss security officials are warning that their country could become a target.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Frankly you can&#039;t assign a rational process to their behavior. Targets for them appear to be ANYONE BUT THEM, not those who have taken actions against them. As I pointed out in an earlier post, what did France do cause their country to be invaded by Germany in 1939? Nothing.

In an ideal utopian society we would be able to solve problems through an intellectual analysis of the issues and agree on a solution. The reality is that those who have twisted the teaching of the Koran do not want peace with others, they want to dominate over others. 

As much as the world may fear the so-called &quot;American Imperialism&quot; of influence, we should have far more fear of justifying, placating and sympathizing with Bin Laden and his movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I still fail to understand is the causality between &#8220;our behavior&#8221; and the attacks against us. Maybe if I could understand what other countries have done to deserve terrorist attacks. </p>
<p>What did Argentina, which has had <a href="http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/eng_n/argentina_e.htm" rel="nofollow">terrorist attacks from Islamic extremists</a>, do deserve there attack? </p>
<p>What behavior can we associate with the Swiss, who pride themselves on being neutral, deserve to be in the<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901795.html" rel="nofollow">crosshairs of Islamic radicals</a>? Quote from the Washington Post:</p>
<blockquote><p>As the global jihad movement becomes more decentralized and fragmented, however, Swiss security officials are warning that their country could become a target.</p></blockquote>
<p>Frankly you can&#8217;t assign a rational process to their behavior. Targets for them appear to be ANYONE BUT THEM, not those who have taken actions against them. As I pointed out in an earlier post, what did France do cause their country to be invaded by Germany in 1939? Nothing.</p>
<p>In an ideal utopian society we would be able to solve problems through an intellectual analysis of the issues and agree on a solution. The reality is that those who have twisted the teaching of the Koran do not want peace with others, they want to dominate over others. </p>
<p>As much as the world may fear the so-called &#8220;American Imperialism&#8221; of influence, we should have far more fear of justifying, placating and sympathizing with Bin Laden and his movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I still fail to understand is the causality between &quot;our behavior&quot; and the attacks against us. Maybe if I could understand what other countries have done to deserve terrorist attacks. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What did Argentina, which has had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/eng_n/argentina_e.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;terrorist attacks from Islamic extremists&lt;/a&gt;, do deserve there attack? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What behavior can we associate with the Swiss, who pride themselves on being neutral, deserve to be in the &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901795.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;crosshairs of Islamic radicals&lt;/a&gt;? Quote from the Washington Post:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As the global jihad movement becomes more decentralized and fragmented, however, Swiss security officials are warning that their country could become a target.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frankly you can&#039;t assign a rational process to their behavior. Targets for them appear to be ANYONE BUT THEM, not those who have taken actions against them. As I pointed out in an earlier post, what did France do cause their country to be invaded by Germany in 1939? Nothing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In an ideal utopian society we would be able to solve problems through an intellectual analysis of the issues and agree on a solution. The reality is that those who have twisted the teaching of the Koran do not want peace with others, they want to dominate over others. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As much as the world may fear the so-called &quot;American Imperialism&quot; of influence, we should have far more fear of justifying, placating and sympathizing with Bin Laden and his movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I still fail to understand is the causality between &#8220;our behavior&#8221; and the attacks against us. Maybe if I could understand what other countries have done to deserve terrorist attacks. </p>
<p>What did Argentina, which has had <a href="http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/eng_n/argentina_e.htm" rel="nofollow">terrorist attacks from Islamic extremists</a>, do deserve there attack? </p>
<p>What behavior can we associate with the Swiss, who pride themselves on being neutral, deserve to be in the <br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/19/AR2006071901795.html" rel="nofollow">crosshairs of Islamic radicals</a>? Quote from the Washington Post:<br />
<blockquote>As the global jihad movement becomes more decentralized and fragmented, however, Swiss security officials are warning that their country could become a target.</p></blockquote>
<p>Frankly you can&#8217;t assign a rational process to their behavior. Targets for them appear to be ANYONE BUT THEM, not those who have taken actions against them. As I pointed out in an earlier post, what did France do cause their country to be invaded by Germany in 1939? Nothing.</p>
<p>In an ideal utopian society we would be able to solve problems through an intellectual analysis of the issues and agree on a solution. The reality is that those who have twisted the teaching of the Koran do not want peace with others, they want to dominate over others. </p>
<p>As much as the world may fear the so-called &#8220;American Imperialism&#8221; of influence, we should have far more fear of justifying, placating and sympathizing with Bin Laden and his movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmictap.com/deserving-innocents/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

You completely miss my point.  I said that these countries have not been targeted by Jihadists as we have.  If we were truly being targeted because &quot;we are not them&quot;, we&#039;d not be so alone.

But we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; nearly alone - because of how we behave.

Bin Laden&#039;s fatwa may prove him a nutjob, but those three primary complaints are 100% true, so to compare them to Hitler&#039;s propaganda strains credulity.

Does it justify the killing of innocents?  Not really.  Then why is it alright when we do it?  Oh, I get it - terrorism is what &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; people do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>You completely miss my point.  I said that these countries have not been targeted by Jihadists as we have.  If we were truly being targeted because &#8220;we are not them&#8221;, we&#8217;d not be so alone.</p>
<p>But we <i>are</i> nearly alone &#8211; because of how we behave.</p>
<p>Bin Laden&#8217;s fatwa may prove him a nutjob, but those three primary complaints are 100% true, so to compare them to Hitler&#8217;s propaganda strains credulity.</p>
<p>Does it justify the killing of innocents?  Not really.  Then why is it alright when we do it?  Oh, I get it &#8211; terrorism is what <i>other</i> people do.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You completely miss my point.  I said that these countries have not been targeted by Jihadists as we have.  If we were truly being targeted because &quot;we are not them&quot;, we&#039;d not be so alone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; nearly alone - because of how we behave.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bin Laden&#039;s fatwa may prove him a nutjob, but those three primary complaints are 100% true, so to compare them to Hitler&#039;s propaganda strains credulity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does it justify the killing of innocents?  Not really.  Then why is it alright when we do it?  Oh, I get it - terrorism is what &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; people do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>You completely miss my point.  I said that these countries have not been targeted by Jihadists as we have.  If we were truly being targeted because &#8220;we are not them&#8221;, we&#8217;d not be so alone.</p>
<p>But we <i>are</i> nearly alone &#8211; because of how we behave.</p>
<p>Bin Laden&#8217;s fatwa may prove him a nutjob, but those three primary complaints are 100% true, so to compare them to Hitler&#8217;s propaganda strains credulity.</p>
<p>Does it justify the killing of innocents?  Not really.  Then why is it alright when we do it?  Oh, I get it &#8211; terrorism is what <i>other</i> people do.</p>
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